Michael
says:
Hey
Mr. Bean says:
hey
Mr. Bean says:
what's up?
Michael says:
Sorry, my computer locked up and I had to go.
Mr. Bean says:
ok
Michael says:
We were talking about the C++ compiler. * DreamOS is now
programed with GCC (C and not C++)
Mr. Bean says:
oh yeah
Michael says:
So I guess you just write in C++ normally then the processor figures the rest
out. * You write it in C and the proprietary code directly
in ASM
Mr. Bean says:
yeah pretty much
Michael says:
I wonder how you talk to proprietary things like the maple bus? *
Do this through ASM
Mr. Bean says:
that's explained in the compiler manual i think
Michael says:
But the manual is for Hitachi stuff right, not Dreamcast. *
The programming manual is for Hitachi Super H 4 only
Mr. Bean says:
hmm...not sure
Michael says:
This aspect of it isn't explained anywhere.
Michael says:
Theres info here: http://mc.pp.se/dc/maplebus.html
but it doesn't explain actual implementation.
Michael says:
It's basically just info on the protocol.
Mr. Bean says:
alright
Michael says:
I downloaded the Hitachi compiler but it's only an update.
Michael says:
Where do I get the actual version?
Michael says:
Have you downloaded it?
Mr. Bean says:
yeah, do u want me to send it to u? * The full
version costs thousands of dollars and isn't open source
Michael says:
Yeah, please.
Michael says:
Where'd you get it?
Mr. Bean says:
at the website...the link our page
Mr. Bean says:
sorry bout that
Michael says:
That's an update.
Mr. Bean says:
do u have that one already?
Michael says:
I tried to install it and it said I need version 7 or something.
Mr. Bean says:
oh, lemme send u what u're missing then
Michael says:
Isn't that an update too, it ends in "u".
Mr. Bean says:
i doubt it is
Michael says:
Do you have the compiler installed?
Mr. Bean says:
not yet
Mr. Bean says:
wanted to wait till we actually start coding
Michael says:
I downloade version 7.101 and it said it was an update.
Michael says:
They all say they're updates on Hitachi's site.
Michael says:
You probably have to buy the actual version.
Mr. Bean says:
hmmm...maybe we'll find it on some obscure site
Michael says:
Hopefully, rather than paying like 3,000 dollars.
Michael says:
It say the same thing, we need to get 7.0
Mr. Bean says:
damn that sux man, this might be a real problem
Michael says:
It's included in the HEW environment, which must be bought from Hitachi.
Michael says:
HEW- Hitachi Embedded Workshop
Michael says:
You can't get it seperatly.
Mr. Bean says:
how much is it?
Michael says:
If we contacted them maybe they'd give it to us for free because we're using
it for educational/open source.
Mr. Bean says:
that sounds like a good idea.....is there any way of contacting them?
Michael says:
By phone or e-mail.
Michael says:
If we both do it we'll get different reps and have a better chance.
Mr. Bean says:
alright,let's do it
Michael says:
Hitachi Semiconductor (America) Inc.
179 East Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
Tel: (408) 433-1990
Fax: (408) 433-0223
Michael says:
You can't buy online anyways.
Michael says:
techsupport@hsa.hitachi.com
Michael says:
They seem to be fairly greedy.
Michael says:
People have already bought the CPU and they want them to pay even more for the
compiler; which at any other company is free.
Michael says:
Plus their phone number isn't toll free.
Michael says:
I'll call right now, it'll cut out my 802 so bye.